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Mon, 14 April 2008 09:37

romann000
Messages: 8
Registered: April 2008

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Hi DBA's,

I have a little problem by understanding the rman-tool and his configuration-switches.
I' like to use rman to delete not needed Files in a timespace of 7 days.
I'll use the retention policy in a window of 7 days.

But if I use the command: report all
then I see also files only 3 days old.

can i use the retention policy only if I use the Flash_Recovery_Area, or what's my problem?

Please have a look of my configuration:

RMAN> show all;

using target database control file instead of recovery catalog
RMAN configuration parameters are:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO RECOVERY WINDOW OF 7 DAYS;
CONFIGURE BACKUP OPTIMIZATION OFF; # default
CONFIGURE DEFAULT DEVICE TYPE TO DISK; # default
CONFIGURE CONTROLFILE AUTOBACKUP ON;
CONFIGURE CONTROLFILE AUTOBACKUP FORMAT FOR DEVICE TYPE DISK TO '%F'; # default
CONFIGURE DEVICE TYPE DISK PARALLELISM 1 BACKUP TYPE TO BACKUPSET; # default
CONFIGURE DATAFILE BACKUP COPIES FOR DEVICE TYPE DISK TO 1; # default
CONFIGURE ARCHIVELOG BACKUP COPIES FOR DEVICE TYPE DISK TO 1; # default
CONFIGURE CHANNEL DEVICE TYPE DISK FORMAT '/backup/RMAN/%d_%I_%s_%T';
CONFIGURE MAXSETSIZE TO UNLIMITED; # default
CONFIGURE ENCRYPTION FOR DATABASE OFF; # default
CONFIGURE ENCRYPTION ALGORITHM 'AES128'; # default
CONFIGURE ARCHIVELOG DELETION POLICY TO NONE; # default
CONFIGURE SNAPSHOT CONTROLFILE NAME TO '/u01/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/dbs/snapcf_DATAFILE.f'; # default

RMAN> report obsolete(I have not all views listed because of a short thread:-))

Backup Piece 159 06-APR-08 /u01/backup/rman/arch_161_DATAFILE_20080406.arc
Backup Set 160 06-APR-08
Backup Piece 160 06-APR-08 /u01/backup/rman/arch_162_DATAFILE_20080406.arc
Backup Set 161 06-APR-08
Backup Piece 161 06-APR-08 /u01/backup/rman/arch_163_DATAFILE_20080406.arc
Backup Set 165 07-APR-08
Backup Piece 165 07-APR-08 /u01/backup/rman/arch_167_DATAFILE_20080407.arc
Backup Set 166 07-APR-08
Backup Piece 166 07-APR-08 /u01/backup/rman/arch_168_DATAFILE_20080407.arc
Backup Set 171 08-APR-08
Backup Piece 171 08-APR-08 /backup/RMAN/DATAFILE_499394454_173_20080408
Backup Set 176 08-APR-08
Backup Piece 176 08-APR-08 /u01/backup/rman/arch_178_DATAFILE_20080408.arc
Backup Set 181 09-APR-08
Backup Piece 181 09-APR-08 /u01/backup/rman/arch_183_DATAFILE_20080409.arc
Backup Set 186 10-APR-08
Backup Piece 186 10-APR-08 /u01/backup/rman/arch_188_DATAFILE_20080410.arc
Backup Set 191 11-APR-08
Backup Piece 191 11-APR-08 /u01/backup/rman/arch_193_DATAFILE_20080411.arc

Thank you for help in advance.

BR
Roland

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313785 is a reply to message #313783]

Mon, 14 April 2008 09:52

vkulkarni
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Registered: March 2008
Location: Alpharetta, GA

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See - http://oradbatips.blogspot.com/2006/11/tip-4-rman-recovery-window.html

Hope this helps.!

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313821 is a reply to message #313783]

Mon, 14 April 2008 13:56

romann000
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Registered: April 2008

Junior Member

hi vkulkarni,

thanks for your help!

it's a little bit better:-)

I'm understand why rman would like older files than 7 days for recovery and why a retention window of 7 days isn't the same as an backupset for 7 day's, but I'm understand, why rman will delete files they are only 3 days old?

And I don't know if i can use a retention policy only if i use the FRA..

If you have an answer again, please let me know:-)

BR
Roland

PS: I have now changed my policy to
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 7;
I have backuped my DB today evening at 10 o'clock, with the new Retention.
If I use report obsolete, I get now also files from today marked as obsolete... Is this a bug in the rman of 10g?
I only need a mechanism to delete all Files older as 7 days, not more:-(

[Updated on: Mon, 14 April 2008 15:25]

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313832 is a reply to message #313821]

Mon, 14 April 2008 15:29

ebrian
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Registered: April 2006

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What is the output of:

list backup summary;

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313835 is a reply to message #313783]

Mon, 14 April 2008 16:08

romann000
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Registered: April 2008

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Hi ebrian,

a lots of points:-) 210 entries.

by the backup today i've activate the compression of rman.

TAG20080413T220353
205 B F A DISK 13-APR-08 1 1 NO TAG20080413T220355
206 B A A DISK 14-APR-08 1 1 YES TAG20080414T220003
207 B A A DISK 14-APR-08 1 1 YES TAG20080414T220003
208 B F A DISK 14-APR-08 1 1 YES TAG20080414T220256
209 B A A DISK 14-APR-08 1 1 YES TAG20080414T220752
210 B F A DISK 14-APR-08 1 1 NO TAG20080414T220756

Thanks for help

BR
Roland

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313842 is a reply to message #313835]

Mon, 14 April 2008 20:11

ebrian
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Registered: April 2006

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It's hard to determine your problem from the information you provided.

Are you doing incremental backups?
Are you backing up sporadically?
Are you constantly changing the retention policy?

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313896 is a reply to message #313783]

Tue, 15 April 2008 01:45

romann000
Messages: 8
Registered: April 2008

Junior Member

Hi ebrian,

sorry for this mistake:

I have a daily full-backup includes arch-files per rman.

run {
allocate channel ch0 type disk;
backup as compressed backupset database format
'/u01/backup/rman/rman_%s_%d_%T.bus'
plus archivelog format '/u01/backup/rman/arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
}
exit

I don't make an incremental backup, this is a litte DB and i can backup it in 7 minutes, i think there is no incremental backup needed.

Yesterday, I have changed the retention policy from window 7 days to redundancy 7.

I need only a fallback of 7 days and the automatic deletion of not need files older as 7 days.

Thanks for help

BR
Roland

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313920 is a reply to message #313842]

Tue, 15 April 2008 03:16

Shahzad_Khan
Messages: 8
Registered: September 2005
Location: Karachi

Junior Member

run {
  allocate channel ch0 type disk;
  backup as compressed backupset database format
  'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus'
  plus archivelog format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
  release channel ch0;
  allocate channel ch1 device type disk format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
  release channel ch1;
  delete force noprompt obsolete;
  allocate channel ch2 device type disk format 'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus';
  release channel ch2;
  delete force noprompt obsolete;
}

Khurram

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313926 is a reply to message #313920]

Tue, 15 April 2008 03:31

romann000
Messages: 8
Registered: April 2008

Junior Member

Hi Khurram,

thanks for your script, i'll use it for my backup.

But I have problems with the files they are marked as obsolete.

I have Files by report obsolete, they are only 3 days old. But I need a fallback of 7 days.

BR
Roland

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313929 is a reply to message #313920]

Tue, 15 April 2008 04:04

Shahzad_Khan
Messages: 8
Registered: September 2005
Location: Karachi

Junior Member

as you have retention policy to redundancy 7 ,what was before that?You might check the backup date from RMAN

RMAN>list backup summary

Khurram

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313930 is a reply to message #313929]

Tue, 15 April 2008 04:12

romann000
Messages: 8
Registered: April 2008

Junior Member

I have set a window of 7 days before.

a general question: can i use the retention policy without using the Recovery area?

I have posted the backup summary litte bit above.

there are 210 entries. I don't listed all, only the latest.

BR
Roland

[Updated on: Tue, 15 April 2008 04:23]

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313937 is a reply to message #313929]

Tue, 15 April 2008 04:32

Shahzad_Khan
Messages: 8
Registered: September 2005
Location: Karachi

Junior Member

what do you mean by recovery area is it FRA (flash recovery area)?

Khurram

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313941 is a reply to message #313937]

Tue, 15 April 2008 04:39

romann000
Messages: 8
Registered: April 2008

Junior Member

HI,

yes, i mean the flash_recovery_area.

BR
Roland

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313943 is a reply to message #313941]

Tue, 15 April 2008 04:44

Shahzad_Khan
Messages: 8
Registered: September 2005
Location: Karachi

Junior Member

>can i use the retention policy without using the Recovery area?

yes , see here

RMAN>list backup summary

C:\>dir *.bus
 Volume in drive C is khurram
 Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B

 Directory of C:\

File Not Found

C:\>dir *.arc
 Volume in drive C is khurram
 Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B

 Directory of C:\

File Not Found


RMAN> crosscheck backup
2> ;

using channel ORA_DISK_1

RMAN> list backup summary
2> ;


RMAN> show retention policy
2> ;

RMAN configuration parameters are:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 1; # default

RMAN> run {
2>   allocate channel ch0 type disk;
3>   backup as compressed backupset database format
4>   'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus'
5>   plus archivelog format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
6>   release channel ch0;
7>   allocate channel ch1 device type disk format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
8>   release channel ch1;
9>   delete force noprompt obsolete;
10>   allocate channel ch2 device type disk format 'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus';
11>   release channel ch2;
12>   delete force noprompt obsolete;
13> }

released channel: ORA_DISK_1
allocated channel: ch0
channel ch0: sid=146 devtype=DISK


Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=24 recid=79 stamp=652108461
input archive log thread=1 sequence=25 recid=80 stamp=652112650
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:05
Finished backup at 15-APR-08

Starting backup at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: starting compressed full datafile backupset
channel ch0: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSTEM01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSAUX01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\USERS01.DBF

input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\UNDOTBS01.D
BF
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
Finished backup at 15-APR-08

Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=26 recid=81 stamp=652112703
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
Finished backup at 15-APR-08

Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_
04_15\O1_MF_S_652112718_408X3ZVJ_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08

released channel: ch0

allocated channel: ch1
channel ch1: sid=146 devtype=DISK

released channel: ch1

RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
Deleting the following obsolete backups and copies:
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
-------------------- ------ ------------------ --------------------
Backup Set           128    15-APR-08
  Backup Piece       128    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
Archive Log          79     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_24_408RYXDF_.ARC
Archive Log          80     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_25_408X1SCR_.ARC
deleted backup piece
backup piece handle=C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC recid=128 stamp=652112652
deleted archive log
archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVEL
OG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_24_408RYXDF_.ARC recid=79 stamp=652108461
deleted archive log
archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVEL
OG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_25_408X1SCR_.ARC recid=80 stamp=652112650
Deleted 3 objects


released channel: ORA_DISK_1
allocated channel: ch2
channel ch2: sid=146 devtype=DISK

released channel: ch2

RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
no obsolete backups found

RMAN>

C:\>dir *.bus
 Volume in drive C is khurram
 Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B

 Directory of C:\

04/15/2008  02:24 PM        96,813,056 RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS
               1 File(s)     96,813,056 bytes
               0 Dir(s)  61,960,724,480 bytes free

C:\>dir *.arc
 Volume in drive C is khurram
 Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B

 Directory of C:\

04/15/2008  02:25 PM            56,832 ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
               1 File(s)         56,832 bytes
               0 Dir(s)  61,960,724,480 bytes free

C:\>


RMAN> run {
2>   allocate channel ch0 type disk;
3>   backup as compressed backupset database format
4>   'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus'
5>   plus archivelog format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
6>   release channel ch0;
7>  }

released channel: ORA_DISK_1
allocated channel: ch0
channel ch0: sid=146 devtype=DISK


Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=26 recid=81 stamp=652112703
input archive log thread=1 sequence=27 recid=82 stamp=652112873
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_134_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
Finished backup at 15-APR-08

Starting backup at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: starting compressed full datafile backupset
channel ch0: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSTEM01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSAUX01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\USERS01.DBF

input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\UNDOTBS01.D
BF
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\RMAN_135_ORCL1_20080415.BUS comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
Finished backup at 15-APR-08

Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=28 recid=83 stamp=652112925
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_136_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
Finished backup at 15-APR-08

Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_
04_15\O1_MF_S_652112928_408XBKCZ_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08

released channel: ch0

RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;

RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
Report of obsolete backups and copies
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
-------------------- ------ ------------------ --------------------
Backup Set           129    15-APR-08
  Backup Piece       129    15-APR-08          C:\RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS
Backup Set           130    15-APR-08
  Backup Piece       130    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
Backup Set           131    15-APR-08
  Backup Piece       131    15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_04_15\O1_MF_S_652112718_408X3ZVJ_.BKP
Backup Set           132    15-APR-08
  Backup Piece       132    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_134_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
Archive Log          81     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_26_408X3HRP_.ARC
Archive Log          82     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_27_408X8RXN_.ARC

RMAN>

Note : i have archivelog which is at FRA ,it also apply there and as well yours own defined backupsets path.

Khurram

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Re: Rman and delete obsolete files.. [message #313953 is a reply to message #313943]

Tue, 15 April 2008 05:49

romann000
Messages: 8
Registered: April 2008

Junior Member

Hi Khurram,

thank you for this detailed explantation.

I think I don't understand rman and his switches, i'll make me a little bit smarter and then i'll be back:-)

I'll try what you wrote.

BR
Roland

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